Showing posts with label Tacoma. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tacoma. Show all posts
Thursday, June 19, 2014
Is Gritty Upperclass Possible?
This analysis about Tacoma in today's Crosscut is getting a bit of attention. The author, Benjamin Anderstone, is a Tacoma native who discusses Tacoma's strength's and challenges. He describes the grit of the city, the second-behind-Seattle status and how local culture has and is changing. There are some similarities to Ruston, although I feel that in some ways Ruston has happily turned its back on any sense of grit or 'eclectic nature'. Many are working hard to focus only on being the upper-class enclave of the South Sound. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but as one who loves and celebrates our gritty past, I think we lose more than we gain if we forget our roots. What do you think? Karen
Thursday, September 12, 2013
Boundaries
We now have something tangible to mark what many locals already know, Ruston is its own space. Point Ruston installed a boundary marker on the Waterwalk this week so everyone can know. After the fight against annexation a few years ago, this rock on the shoreline is meaningful. We may still be less than a thousand residents and only slightly larger than 5 square blocks, but Ruston is unique and set apart from the big city next door. Ruston - small town America surrounded by urban Tacoma. Official Ruston map here...
Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Mural Dedications This Saturday
Local businesses continue to give back to the community that supports them. That motivation sets the stage for the Antique Sandwich Company and Don's Ruston Market as they publicly dedicate the new murals on their walls to the customers and neighbors they serve.
Festivities start at 11 am at the Antique Sandwich Company this Saturday, September 17th with speeches and a chance to meet mural artist Mary Mann. Representatives from Tacoma's Neighborhood Council staff and West End Neighborhood Council have been invited as well. It was a City of Tacoma Innovative Grant (administered by the West End Council) that funded the beautiful mermaids on the Antique's wall.
Folks will then stroll down a chalk walk to Don's Ruston Market for a second dedication of the new garden that sprouted on the market wall last month. Artist Rachel Dotson will be there along with Erling Kuester, who is president of the Cross District Association that provided a matching grant for Dotson's mural. The cross district holds one fundraiser each year for their arts program and other support activities for our businesses. Their auction will be held October 22nd at Shenanigans.
Come celebrate these bright new additions to the neighborhood this Saturday!
Festivities start at 11 am at the Antique Sandwich Company this Saturday, September 17th with speeches and a chance to meet mural artist Mary Mann. Representatives from Tacoma's Neighborhood Council staff and West End Neighborhood Council have been invited as well. It was a City of Tacoma Innovative Grant (administered by the West End Council) that funded the beautiful mermaids on the Antique's wall.
Folks will then stroll down a chalk walk to Don's Ruston Market for a second dedication of the new garden that sprouted on the market wall last month. Artist Rachel Dotson will be there along with Erling Kuester, who is president of the Cross District Association that provided a matching grant for Dotson's mural. The cross district holds one fundraiser each year for their arts program and other support activities for our businesses. Their auction will be held October 22nd at Shenanigans.
Come celebrate these bright new additions to the neighborhood this Saturday!
Monday, January 21, 2008
Council Meeting Summary, Jan. 7th
Here is a brief summary of the issues I found interesting from the last council meeting on Jan. 7th. This is not intended to fully cover everything that was discussed. The council meets again Tuesday (tomorrow) at 7 pm at the school building. Please attend and listen to the issues for yourself. ~ Karen
The meeting opened with a long discussion of the agenda approval and adding the contract for the prosecuting attorney, which was eventually added to the agenda as the first item of business. Mayor Transue opened discussion on the issue by making his recommendation. Council Member Albertson asked why this candidate had been chosen. There had been 6 proposals, only 2 of which were within budget. Transue, the town attorney and police chief interviewed those two, who scored evenly on the interview. Transue stated that based on reference checking and costs, he recommended Michael Bejarano.
Albertson said he had done his own reference checking on the other candidate and had negotiated a lower rate with her. Albertson wanted Christa Swain appointed as the prosecuting attorney. Council Member Hedrick felt that Albertson had inappropriately taken on duties given to the executive branch and was acting outside the legislative authority of the council. The town attorney said the names proposed on the contract were the preview of the mayor, the terms of the contract were for the council.
Transue noted that he had asked the council to appoint a member to work with him in this selection process after his last candidate was rejected. When there was no response, he moved ahead. Transue said he would take it under advisement if the council moved ahead with the contract for a new prosecuting attorney with a different person than he had proposed. An hour into the meeting, the motion to approve the contract with Ms. Swain’s name inserted and Mr. Bejarano’s deleted was approved 4 to 1 (Hedrick voted no).
Transue noted there were several items on the horizon that would require a budget increase:
1) Since the council had refused to compromise on the proposed lease of the Commencement’s sale center space, there was now legal action that would require an additional $12,000 to $15,000. He noted the length of the overall lease of the school was not an issue at trial.
2) Tacoma will be raising rates; 4% for sewer base rate plus a 7% increase in the consumption rate and 7% increase for garbage.
3) He was unsure what level of service he could provide for the rest of the year, given the council’s cut on overtime for town employees, especially police.
Albertson stated that they can serve the public best if they try to come up with a level of cooperation, such as the mayor giving his reasons for his actions and the council doing the same – that information should go both ways. He felt that information flow had been lacking from the mayor.
Transue asked Albertson for an update on their meeting with Tacoma Fire (to negotiate a new contract for emergency services). Albertson felt any discussion should wait until the study session on Jan. 14th.
When public comment was opened, I asked Albertson and Council Member Stebner to provide a copy of the contract with Tacoma Fire now so the public could review it before the next meeting. They gave no response. They eventually acknowledged there had been a meeting with Tacoma Fire, but would not talk about it until the study session.
Fire Chief Torbet then asked for details of the contract with Tacoma Fire. If there were numbers available from Tacoma, the council owed it to at least the fire committee to review them and not keep them so hidden. He asked Albertson and Stebner if there was a reason they were hiding these numbers? He found it very objectionable that the council was not being forthright with this information.
Last August, Ruston was awarded a grant from the state’s Community and Economic Development agency (CTED) for $75,000 to update the Master Development Plan (MPD) for the Point Ruston property to make it consistent with all the town’s land use codes. There have been inconsistencies discovered both within the MPD and with Ruston’s zoning codes and comprehensive plan. The grant requires a $31,400 match from Ruston that the council had removed from the budget.
A CTED representative at the meeting announced that they were not sure they could fund the grant under these conditions. Among other things, the time line was critical and the contract (as presented) had to be signed this week. Council Member Huson expressed ongoing concerned about the cost of the town planners (who are outside consultants) and his determination to hire an in-house house planner. The town’s consultants would do most of the work on this grant. The council eventually approved signing the contract while acknowledging that a budget amendment would be needed to fulfill the obligations of that contract.
I’ve already given a summary of what happened at the study session the following Monday on the fire department. Prior to the study session, Tacoma had released a letter stating they had withdrawn from contract negotiations on Jan. 3rd at the meeting with Stebner and Alberston. The timing is interesting; Stebner and Albertson apparently knew on Jan. 3rd that Tacoma had withdrawn from negotiations, yet at this meeting on Jan. 7th they refused to talk about details of the meeting with Tacoma until the study session on Jan. 14th. These council members began that meeting on the 14th by questioning Chief Torbet about what criteria they should use to judge between Tacoma and Ruston emergency services without acknowledging the letter from Tacoma or the fact there was not contract on the table.
The meeting opened with a long discussion of the agenda approval and adding the contract for the prosecuting attorney, which was eventually added to the agenda as the first item of business. Mayor Transue opened discussion on the issue by making his recommendation. Council Member Albertson asked why this candidate had been chosen. There had been 6 proposals, only 2 of which were within budget. Transue, the town attorney and police chief interviewed those two, who scored evenly on the interview. Transue stated that based on reference checking and costs, he recommended Michael Bejarano.
Albertson said he had done his own reference checking on the other candidate and had negotiated a lower rate with her. Albertson wanted Christa Swain appointed as the prosecuting attorney. Council Member Hedrick felt that Albertson had inappropriately taken on duties given to the executive branch and was acting outside the legislative authority of the council. The town attorney said the names proposed on the contract were the preview of the mayor, the terms of the contract were for the council.
Transue noted that he had asked the council to appoint a member to work with him in this selection process after his last candidate was rejected. When there was no response, he moved ahead. Transue said he would take it under advisement if the council moved ahead with the contract for a new prosecuting attorney with a different person than he had proposed. An hour into the meeting, the motion to approve the contract with Ms. Swain’s name inserted and Mr. Bejarano’s deleted was approved 4 to 1 (Hedrick voted no).
Transue noted there were several items on the horizon that would require a budget increase:
1) Since the council had refused to compromise on the proposed lease of the Commencement’s sale center space, there was now legal action that would require an additional $12,000 to $15,000. He noted the length of the overall lease of the school was not an issue at trial.
2) Tacoma will be raising rates; 4% for sewer base rate plus a 7% increase in the consumption rate and 7% increase for garbage.
3) He was unsure what level of service he could provide for the rest of the year, given the council’s cut on overtime for town employees, especially police.
Albertson stated that they can serve the public best if they try to come up with a level of cooperation, such as the mayor giving his reasons for his actions and the council doing the same – that information should go both ways. He felt that information flow had been lacking from the mayor.
Transue asked Albertson for an update on their meeting with Tacoma Fire (to negotiate a new contract for emergency services). Albertson felt any discussion should wait until the study session on Jan. 14th.
When public comment was opened, I asked Albertson and Council Member Stebner to provide a copy of the contract with Tacoma Fire now so the public could review it before the next meeting. They gave no response. They eventually acknowledged there had been a meeting with Tacoma Fire, but would not talk about it until the study session.
Fire Chief Torbet then asked for details of the contract with Tacoma Fire. If there were numbers available from Tacoma, the council owed it to at least the fire committee to review them and not keep them so hidden. He asked Albertson and Stebner if there was a reason they were hiding these numbers? He found it very objectionable that the council was not being forthright with this information.
Last August, Ruston was awarded a grant from the state’s Community and Economic Development agency (CTED) for $75,000 to update the Master Development Plan (MPD) for the Point Ruston property to make it consistent with all the town’s land use codes. There have been inconsistencies discovered both within the MPD and with Ruston’s zoning codes and comprehensive plan. The grant requires a $31,400 match from Ruston that the council had removed from the budget.
A CTED representative at the meeting announced that they were not sure they could fund the grant under these conditions. Among other things, the time line was critical and the contract (as presented) had to be signed this week. Council Member Huson expressed ongoing concerned about the cost of the town planners (who are outside consultants) and his determination to hire an in-house house planner. The town’s consultants would do most of the work on this grant. The council eventually approved signing the contract while acknowledging that a budget amendment would be needed to fulfill the obligations of that contract.
I’ve already given a summary of what happened at the study session the following Monday on the fire department. Prior to the study session, Tacoma had released a letter stating they had withdrawn from contract negotiations on Jan. 3rd at the meeting with Stebner and Alberston. The timing is interesting; Stebner and Albertson apparently knew on Jan. 3rd that Tacoma had withdrawn from negotiations, yet at this meeting on Jan. 7th they refused to talk about details of the meeting with Tacoma until the study session on Jan. 14th. These council members began that meeting on the 14th by questioning Chief Torbet about what criteria they should use to judge between Tacoma and Ruston emergency services without acknowledging the letter from Tacoma or the fact there was not contract on the table.
Wednesday, January 16, 2008
Annexation Needed to Remain Residential? (Commentary)
I read an interesting blog entry by Erik Emery Hanberg, a local blogger that I've heard is well known around these parts. I found his entry from last Sunday very interesting regarding University Place. Here is a quote, "So once again, I'll make the point: if UP wants to keep its suburban identity, the best thing for them to do is to be annexed into Tacoma." To read the rest, click here.
We could easily replace UP with Ruston and suburban with residential and presto, it's one of the on-going debates we have here! The Ruston Connection group (Council Members Albertson, Everding, Stebner and Huson) campaigned strongly on maintaining the current residential flavor that Ruston has evolved into. Yet they oppose most development (by running any proposal through the ringer and then often not approving it). They met with Tacoma's mayor two years ago to explore annexation. They continue to push for Tacoma emergency services even after their own fire committee recommended against it and Tacoma has withdrawn from negotiations.
Perhaps this gives a bit of a clue about their motivation. They want to stay a bedroom neighborhood at all costs. If they strip away Ruston's tax base and identity, the only choice will be to annex. Then they won't have to deal with pesky things like small business customers parking near their homes, or buildings on the waterfront that might impact their view.
Maybe I'm grasping at straws. They sure haven't explained openly any reasons for their actions, leaving us to guess like this. Right or wrong, agree or disagree; open discussion is always best. But after two years of questions and open discussion by the public that has not been reciprocated by the council, I'm wonder if we can ever hope for honesty from these folks.
Karen
We could easily replace UP with Ruston and suburban with residential and presto, it's one of the on-going debates we have here! The Ruston Connection group (Council Members Albertson, Everding, Stebner and Huson) campaigned strongly on maintaining the current residential flavor that Ruston has evolved into. Yet they oppose most development (by running any proposal through the ringer and then often not approving it). They met with Tacoma's mayor two years ago to explore annexation. They continue to push for Tacoma emergency services even after their own fire committee recommended against it and Tacoma has withdrawn from negotiations.
Perhaps this gives a bit of a clue about their motivation. They want to stay a bedroom neighborhood at all costs. If they strip away Ruston's tax base and identity, the only choice will be to annex. Then they won't have to deal with pesky things like small business customers parking near their homes, or buildings on the waterfront that might impact their view.
Maybe I'm grasping at straws. They sure haven't explained openly any reasons for their actions, leaving us to guess like this. Right or wrong, agree or disagree; open discussion is always best. But after two years of questions and open discussion by the public that has not been reciprocated by the council, I'm wonder if we can ever hope for honesty from these folks.
Karen
Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Next Steps ~ What Do You Think?
I've heard several suggestions already on what should happen next. I'll share my ideas and encourage others to share theirs. I already know some of my friends want to see things proceed differently, so let's start talking.
I think first and foremost the council needs to sit still and let their constituents speak. The council started last night's meeting by announcing that no one gets to be mean to them or they will walk. There is a very real backlash in this community against their actions. Part of what they signed up for is to take the heat for their decisions. These same gentlemen didn't have any problem dishing it out when they were angry with the previous council's actions on the condo's.
The council needs to answer some tough questions before they get to ask any more of 'em. Why did they choose to pursue a contract with Tacoma in direct opposition to the fire committee recommendations? Why do they continue to pursue Tacoma services even after Tacoma has withdrawn from negotiations? Why won't they schedule a dialogue with the fire committee to fully explore their findings and capitalize on the committee's knowledge and expertize? When will they step up to the plate and move ahead with the fire committee recommendations?
Once the air gets cleared, then we need to move on. We have a good fire department with a very clearly defined path to make it even better. It's long past time to get started.
What do you think should happen next?
Karen
I think first and foremost the council needs to sit still and let their constituents speak. The council started last night's meeting by announcing that no one gets to be mean to them or they will walk. There is a very real backlash in this community against their actions. Part of what they signed up for is to take the heat for their decisions. These same gentlemen didn't have any problem dishing it out when they were angry with the previous council's actions on the condo's.
The council needs to answer some tough questions before they get to ask any more of 'em. Why did they choose to pursue a contract with Tacoma in direct opposition to the fire committee recommendations? Why do they continue to pursue Tacoma services even after Tacoma has withdrawn from negotiations? Why won't they schedule a dialogue with the fire committee to fully explore their findings and capitalize on the committee's knowledge and expertize? When will they step up to the plate and move ahead with the fire committee recommendations?
Once the air gets cleared, then we need to move on. We have a good fire department with a very clearly defined path to make it even better. It's long past time to get started.
What do you think should happen next?
Karen
Thursday, January 10, 2008
Just How Weird Can It Get?
Dave Seago (News Tribune editorial page) follows Ruston politics ~ I think we must have some entertainment value. Check it out, it's an interesting read.
Ruston (and Tacoma) Residents Win Big
Tacoma city manager Eric Anderson sent this letter to Ruston Mayor Transue late Wednesday. Mr. Anderson states that “On January 3, 2008, Ruston Town Council Members Stebner and Albertson met with TFD representatives and were told TFD was not prepared to enter into negotiations at this time…”
This is a win for everyone, no matter what you thought of the political debate. Ruston residents can breath a collective sigh of relief, knowing the town will remain well protected by the Ruston Fire Department. Tacoma residents won't be asked to subsidise emergency services to an area that already has a strong fire department. Tacoma has an excellent fire department, but cannot respond as quickly – and seconds are vital in an emergency.
The question posed to the council after the meeting this Monday remains ~ why the secrecy? Council Members Stebner and Albertson knew they had no contract with Tacoma, yet deliberately misled the public at Monday night's meeting.
Stay tuned. We are going to review the tapes of the meeting and let you know the exact words they used in this charade. That way you can judge for yourself the ethics of these councilmen (or lack thereof).
Rumor Update (12:02 pm): Apparently Council Member Stebner has arranged for a representative from LESA, Ruton's emergency dispatch service, to attend the study session next Monday, Jan. 14th. We hate to repeat rumors, but since these particular councilmen seem to operate best in the dark, we don't have much choice.
I'm not sure why LESA would want to jump into the middle of this battle. Chief Torbet has worked many hours with their dispatch center to correct any problems Ruston has experienced. Showing up at a meeting without notifying the fire chief or the public appears to yet another attempt muddy the waters. It is unfortunate that our 'renegade' council members continue to involve professional agencies in their games.
I apologize for the poor image quality. We are working on it. Please let me know if you would like a copy of the letter emailed to you (kpickett22@yahoo.com). Karen
This is a win for everyone, no matter what you thought of the political debate. Ruston residents can breath a collective sigh of relief, knowing the town will remain well protected by the Ruston Fire Department. Tacoma residents won't be asked to subsidise emergency services to an area that already has a strong fire department. Tacoma has an excellent fire department, but cannot respond as quickly – and seconds are vital in an emergency.
The question posed to the council after the meeting this Monday remains ~ why the secrecy? Council Members Stebner and Albertson knew they had no contract with Tacoma, yet deliberately misled the public at Monday night's meeting.
Stay tuned. We are going to review the tapes of the meeting and let you know the exact words they used in this charade. That way you can judge for yourself the ethics of these councilmen (or lack thereof).
Rumor Update (12:02 pm): Apparently Council Member Stebner has arranged for a representative from LESA, Ruton's emergency dispatch service, to attend the study session next Monday, Jan. 14th. We hate to repeat rumors, but since these particular councilmen seem to operate best in the dark, we don't have much choice.
I'm not sure why LESA would want to jump into the middle of this battle. Chief Torbet has worked many hours with their dispatch center to correct any problems Ruston has experienced. Showing up at a meeting without notifying the fire chief or the public appears to yet another attempt muddy the waters. It is unfortunate that our 'renegade' council members continue to involve professional agencies in their games.
I apologize for the poor image quality. We are working on it. Please let me know if you would like a copy of the letter emailed to you (kpickett22@yahoo.com). Karen
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
Important Questions
This dialogue has been taking place over the last day in response to Dr. Thomas Ferrer's post yesterday. A new resident asked some very thoughtful questions that are likely on the mind of many Ruston citizens regarding Ruston's possible change to Tacoma Fire Department for service. This is long, but both the questions and answers are important (especially Dr. Ferrer's at the end):
Anonymous said...
I have many questions about the RFD issue and i think i'll list them and ask for anybody who can give some insight to respond. 1. Has there ever been any point in the past where RFD was incapable of providing the service they are there to do? 2. Is this issue more personal, financial, or is the debate necessary for the town future securities? 3. What brought it all on? 4. Is my family in any danger any way by have a volunteer department as oppsed to TFD? Is it the same training, Standards, Philosophies they are ran by? I think i am really needing to know both sides of the story and whats truth vs. rumor. -Mark
January 8, 2008 10:01 AM
Lyle Hardin said...
1)'..was RFD incapable of performing in the past?' The only period during which the RFD was not functional was the time between when ASARCO closed and Ruston contracted with Tacoma. Bob Pudlo would be the authority on this time frame. He was responsible for creating the RFD volunteer department shortly thereafter.
2)'Is this issue more personal, financial,..' For the members of the Fire Committee, of which I was one, the issue was neither personal nor financial, the issue was what was best to protect the community.
3)'What brought it all on' That question should be directed in a public forum to Council Member Stebner, who made the motion for himself to negotiate a contract with Tacoma for fire services.
4)'Is your family in any danger ... by having a volunteer department?' The Fire Committee concluded that the RFD has been providing the services that a fire department is expected to deliver and doing it in an extremely professional and proficient manner. I refer you to the Fire Committee reports, which you may obtain from Town Hall, for a delineation of the training, background and experience of our volunteer members.
January 8, 2008 10:42 AM
Mark said...
I apprectiate the response lyle. I dont think i asked the right question on #1 I guess what i was wondering is as RFD gets sent out on calls has there ever been a time where they say forgot to put gas in the fire truck? I just made this up and it isnt a rumor thats floating around yet but there are many rumors like is circulating and i was more wondering if these rumors are part of a smear campaign against RFD or has there been some issues that might question the safety of citizens?
January 8, 2008 10:56 AM
Lyle said...
Mark, during our analysis, the Fire Committee did not find an single instance of the RFD not responding appropriately and Expediently.
January 8, 2008 12:15 PM
Chief Don Torbet said...
I have not posted on this forum as most of what I say seems to be misused and changed by those seeking to discredit the Ruston Fire Department. I have answered all questions posed, honestly and to the the best of my knowledge and ability. I will do my best to address your questions.
1. Has there ever any point in the past where RFD was incapable of providing the service they are there to do?
Answer: Not to the best of my knowledge. As I recall, we have used our Mutual Aid Agreement with the City of Tacoma a few times for larger indedents; maybe 4 times in my 24 years. Most recently was the Cole Tavern fire 3 or 4 years ago. Due to the possible complexity of the scene, our Asst. Fire Chief requested a full commericial response. I concur with his decision.
2. Is this issue more personal, or is the debate necessary for the town future securities?
Answer: To be honest, it appears to be personal. I like to give people reasonable doubt but after the published Ruston Fire Committee Report, it seems no amount of reason will be considered by a few. I have always welcomed examination of the Ruston Fire Department. I think the Ruston Fire Committee did a thorough and exhaustive job in they're efforts. We must always be willing to look at ways of providing enhanced service.
3.What brought it all on?
Answer: To the best of my recollection, Councilman Stebner felt that we were not responding to calls for service in the Town of Ruston. I gave him information documenting our response to EVERY CALL we were "dispatched" to. I also gave him information as to the reason Tacoma Fire Department had been in the Town of Ruston on calls for service. I personally spent over 40 hours on the phone investigating why Ruston Fire Department was not being dispathed to fire and medical aid calls within the boundaries of Ruston. I finally was able to convince the phone company (Qwest) that Ruston did indeed exist. They're new program installed at LESA was zip code based and had combined Ruston with Tacoma. Mr. Stebner refused to believe my explanation.
5. Is my family in any danger by having a volunteer department as opposed to TFD? Is it the same training, Standards, Philosophies they are ran by?
Answer: Medical training is set up, conducted, tested and monitored by the State of Washington and Pierce County Emergency Management. All EMT's in Pierce County are required to pass the same tests and meet the same ongoing training requirements. Our ongoing medical trainer is Lori Bisbing. She is a respected member of the emergency medical community. She is married to a Tacoma Fire Paramedic and has trained many of the counties EMT's. I will use one of her quotes, "I would hold Ruston Fire Department emergency medical skills up against any department in Pierce County, paid or unpaid."
Ruston Fire is also very fortunate to have in their ranks as a fire fighter, Pat Piper. He is the Training Chief at Bates College Fire Training Program. To complment that training, Ruston Fire was awarded a grant and has purchased over $10,000 in fire training materials. Standards are also mandated by the State of Washington. I have not read or studied Tacoma Fire's Philosophy. I would be very surprised to find it lacking in any way. I believe Ruston Fire has an equal committment to excellence. I would just like to remind people that our volunteers are required to be professionl even though they perform their tasks at a reduced monitary rate. I will accept nothing less.
If you or anyone else have other questions, concerns, or comments, I will do my best to address them. Don Torbet, Ruston Fire Chief 253-381-1887 cell number
January 8, 2008 12:40 PM
Chief Don Torbet said...
Mark, I can think of only one incident that has been used in a the present "campaign". The night of the big wind storm over a year ago, the "first out" fire engine failed to start. I used the medical aid van instead to answer a call for a tree down against a house. It was a toss up as to which piece of equipment might be needed. We do have a reserve fire engine should one have been needed. As soon as we handled the call we returned to the station and were able to get the "first out" engine back in service. In the next day or two it was found that the Town of Ruston heating system had failed.
A little history here. When the Town purchased their first deisel powered fire engine, the Town had heat installed in the engine bay. Please remember this is a 1964 Mack Fire Engine. They were designed to be kept in a warm fire bay. They were not equipped with provisions for "cold start" as they are now. After finding this, I installed a engine block heater. This will allow for cold starts, should the Town's heating system fail in the future.
Two things are important here: First: There was no way the Ruston Fire Department could have known or anticipated the failure of the Town's heating system. Second: There is a back up plan in place (the reserve engine) should it be required.
I want to truely thank you for your questions. I seldom hear the rumors and can't address them until someone tells me what they are. Again, if you or others have question and concerns, please ask.Don Torbet, Ruston Fire Chief 253-381-1887
January 8, 2008 1:14 PM
Mark said...
Chief Don-I actually never heard anything about the engine not starting that night of the windstorms and i thank you for being open and honest about it especially in fragile times like this where as you said anything you say will be turned against you and the department. I was very impressed at the fact that you guys were out taking care of our town as fast as you did at such late hours. I saw the medical aid van and didnt think much as to why. I have heard rumors not connected with that night and i think some of these rumors that lyle hardin already cleared up on this blog are definately a big part of the push for TFD over RFD it almost reminds me of when Powell went to the UN pretending we had evidence of WMD's, used alot of words and made some noise and everyone went along with it. After paying quite a bit of attention to this recently i would challenge anyone to put any evidence about why RFD isnt adequate(Rumors not counting as evidence). I would love to set up a public debate with anyone who would like to challenge me on this. Of course this would never happen because i know that it would be the last thing anyone would want as no evidence can be produced. As far as I have seen or heard. Im still trying keeping an open mind about this so hopefully someone will respond from the other side.
January 8, 2008 1:48 PM
Karen said...
It is so refreshing to hear a new voice asking very pertinent questions. I have forwarded your questions to all the elected officials in the town. Hopefully Council members Stebner, Albertson, Everding or Huson will respond with reasons why they do not support our current fire department. Council member Hedrick is on record with his support of the fire committee recommendations.
Thanks for your comments, Mark. Please stay involved!
January 8, 2008 11:05 PM
Thomas J Ferrer MD said...
Much of the information requested could be gleaned from the Ruston Fire Committee Report. It is best viewed in full color on the Big Screen or computer.
I worked on this report for one year with the same questions in my mind (almost exactly worded the way these questions are). I put my name on that report. This is not to be taken lightly. Honesty is the only way someone in my position remains in a position of Trust. My job and responsibility is too important to put at risk for a local issue such as this. People should realize that I work up to 100 hours a week. My job doesn't change if Ruston loses its fire department. I provide trauma care for Pierce County and accept Trauma referrals from the Western Region at times (here to the Pacific Coast). I present and teach regionally. (I have published nationally).
Working on the committee giving up sleep and weekends at times made me question my sanity. The reason that I did it is that Mayor Transue asked me (by way of referral, we did not know each other except as acquaintances). I realize that while I could easily have said that I was too busy (I am), but then I would be shirking a responsibility to a Town in which I live. I could analyze this overall situation (with actual medical expertise as well as emergency and trauma medical expertise) and could ask and seek answers to the questions that you just asked. No one in Town can match my medical credentials. There are only three other civilian surgeons in the Tacoma area with my qualifications. The answers are in the report in a blunt, clear but tactful way.
I will answer your questions again, but I do not want to fall into a "gotcha situation." I have a point of view so my answers will reflect that. I could easily give you answers that would reflect a different point of view. Tacoma Fire Department is an excellent department and provides Fire and emergency medical services to nearly 200,000 Tacomans, surely they can add our 786 residents to their responsibility. It's that simple. However, that's both the easy answer and the problem.
I quickly realized that the real question is that: Can Tacoma FD take care of Ruston's one square mile better than Ruston FD? Tacoma FD has to cover over 50 square miles. Some people will be closer to the Fire station position, while others will be farther away. Some parts of Tacoma are denser so the Fire stations are closer together or have more equipment and personnel. Some parts of Tacoma are more spread out and Fire stations have larger geographical areas to cover.
Look at a map. Ruston is located in one of the "corners" of Tacoma (roughly speaking of course). It is one the edge of the coverage area of the closest fire station. If another fire station has to respond their location is even farther away. This bothered me, logically this means that responders are now farther away. Response time will be longer. If Ruston were actually Tacoma, that would just be our tough luck.
However, there was always another option available, a local fire department that has protected Ruston for 50 years. It has a track record. If an example of an under-performance or incapability had existed, it would have been easy for those wanting to replace the RFD to exploit such a real example.
There have been times that Mutual Aid from Tacoma has been requested and rendered (about less than once every other year). This is part of our System. All Fire Departments have mutual aid agreements. Historically, RFD has provided coverage to TFD (not recently, but when it was needed, RFD played their role). RFD has had a Mutual Aid agreement with TFD for over 25 years. When TFD had about 40% of their Engines fighting the "Atlas Fire" last October, mutual aid agreements that day helped the TFD immensely.
So I looked for, asked these questions (question one in your list), listened out for criticisms relating to a specific example, and evaluated key events and cases (that occured while the Fire Committe was meeting) that reflected the performance of the RFD. Remember, I can break down most cases because of my background. I also had outside sources at my disposal to help me evaluate fire fighting procedures. (I won't claim any expert status, but I can understand. I also have treated fire victims (as a Burn Surgeon) so I know the patient situations and medical problems of Fire.)
Criticisms that came out of political parties (celebrations) associated with Council Members Albertson and Huson focused on lies designed to sow doubt about the capabilitiesof the RFD. They were addressed in the report, but if you heard from a friend that Ruston EMTs can't perform CPR, or have different licenses than Tacoma EMTs, it may not matter what I say. This is why there is no debate planned on the Fire Committee Report. It's hard to spread rumors if you are going to go up against someone of my knowledge and qualifications.
However, when you talk to Residents who have been helped, or saved by RFD, they sing nothing but praises. Many times they are not participating in Government and are not aware of what's going on until they are told, then they come out and tell their personal stories. People usually don't want to talk about their problems. It's the people that potentially need medical care ASAP and cant wait the extra minutes for Tacoma that I am fighting for.
Regarding question 2: I was asked to be involved after the much of this issue started and also asked myself why am I having to put forth such an effort. Was it to recognize that when Ruston had no income, the RFD was asked to deliver care on a shoestring budget? They did so with an excellent performance record. If it was to prepare for growth and thus upgrade RFD capabilities and budgets, thus protect the people, then the time is worth it. If it was to watch Council Members that are unqualified and uneducated in this field choose an alternative that can potentially harm Ruston residents then the best I can do is point out their folly and shortsightedness to not consider all possible consequences. Remember, I do Trauma. People think they are invincible. They don't really think about their FD until they need them.
Is it personal?: yes. What is motivating Council Member Stebner? When the Fire Committee first started meeting and Stebner was participating a Resident member who had no medical background he was asked why. His response was (this is just hearsay so take it with a grain of salt): Once upon a time when he was in the Air Force, he had a bad feeling about somebody, so he got rid of him and felt he made the right decision. Well, he stated something to the effect that he had a bad feeling about Don (Chief Torbet) and wanted to do away with him. Now I didn't put much stock into that answer, but he could never elucidate in a logical way any of his arguments or counterpoints. From my perspective, his thought processes are simple and goal oriented.
He is in the process in accomplishing his goal so if he is successful what does it matter what the motivation was. Once our FD is gone, we will have to live with the consequences. Ruston loses control and oversight of its Fire and Emergency Services. These are ceded to Tacoma.
Is it Financial? I have touched on this in detail in the reports and above. If you look around the world, any town or city needs to spend a certain amount per person to provide a certain level of service. RFD has been doing it well for a much lower cost. Tacoma may give us a good deal because I trashed their last proposal, but if they do it will be for a lot less than they charge their own residents. That will be politics, Ruston will like it, but the average Tacoman might not want to be subsidizing a town who already has a capable FD. I suspect, Ruston will pay one way or another, or we will continue to become Tacoma and it won't matter. Costs will go up eventually. Remember though if TFD has financial problems, Ruston will have no way to shield itself.
Question 3: What brought it on? I used to think that was important. Then I think I heard the answers and could only shake my head. Immature people are playing around with peoples lives under the guise of trying to provide you "safety" by the best available Fire Department (even if they are farther away).
If we were really trying to leverage what's best for Ruston, we would take a long-term view. Build up and control a valuable asset such as our Fire Department, increase its capabilities. When development matures, then an agreement with Tacoma to help them provide care in this part of of North Tacoma/Ruston without losing control would make sense. The other side threw up examples of the mergers of other small towns and their fire departments. They don't even have good insight regarding their own examples of why Ruston should give up its fire department. Their example actually referred to the following situation which they did not know the details.
One small town without a fire station (Algona) merged with a larger city (Auburn) with a much larger fire department as well as another small town Pacific and it's smaller fire department. All the residents voted on this proposal. All three cities then shared a one third representation on the nine person Board of Governors which governed the Valley Regional Fire Authority. The people in Algona that started with no fire department went up to having oversight and a one third say on how Services would be delivered. Ruston gets no fire station and no representation regarding our Fire and Emergency Services. We give away money and have no say. Anybody can do that.
Question 4: Is your family in danger? Is the RFD the same as TFD with regards to training and standards. Are the philosophies the same? This question could also have a long answer as you can tell from above. Based on the long track record of the RFD, the short answer is no (to danger). While I don't have a family, there are several families in Ruston that I have a personal attachment to and also its ingrained in my training to consider this question in any thing that I do. Am I giving the care that I want my family to have?
Your question is really about training and standards. There are many rumors, accusations, statements denigrating the "Training of Ruston EMTs" I covered this in detail in the Fire Committee Report, but as I stated before, it is difficult to fight innuendo. What I did do was evaluate RFD training as best I could do. I had access to them. So did everyone in town if they wanted to do what I did. RFD EMTs earn their license just like everyone else in the State of Washington. They keep their license by participating and keeping up with "continuing education" which is standardized and the term is OTEP (ongoing training and evaluation process)
When I did the report, our EMTs were one hundred percent compliant. I attended some of their classes, I lectured to them about trauma care, I evaluated their base of knowledge, (the emergency medicine side which are 80% of their calls). I did the above part a year before I was asked to serve on the Fire Committee.
This was just me learning on my own about the RFD (and I was invited to teach them). I studied some of their cases and their performance. I got to know them. The senior EMTs that lead our FD are impressive in their resumes and qualifications in emergency medicine and firefighting. They can save my life anytime, they can work on any of my family members. I could never make the statement that Ruston EMTs can't do their job because I would by LYING.
However, almost everyone else can make that statement and not worry about whether its the truth or not. They don't have my abilities, education or training to evaluate EMTs so they can say whatever they want to sow doubt. Ask someone who was a patient of theirs, then make up your own mind.
The firefighting questions can only be answered credibly by the Firefighters that are available to you to be asked. I asked firefighting questions to all those that presented to our committee, to Chief Torbet, to Pat Piper (Ruston Firefighter and EMT) who trains firefighters at BATES Technical College. Check his qualifications. My observation is that they train hard, can fight fire and save lives. Ruston Firefighters train for the situations that they will encounter in Ruston. Tacoma firefighters train for the situations that occur in Tacoma and have specialized units as do other large Fire Departments. If a hazardous waste train exploded in Ruston, we would need help.
What's rumor and what's truth?Its easy to spread rumor, you often don't have to attach you name or credibility to rumor. Truth can be easy too. Just don't confuse "beliefs" with truth even though they may be one and the same.
When you look at my slides from the first presentation and most of the second presentation, the "facts" on my slides are backed by references. When you publish something in an official manner and you put you name on it, it better be the truth. My answers today include my personal reflections that are additive to what is part of the Ruston Fire Committee reports. You can tell my opinion and point of view is part of my answers. You can tell when I am passing along hearsay. That's why they were not published in an official manner.
Thomas J Ferrer MD
January 9, 2008 8:06 AM
Anonymous said...
I have many questions about the RFD issue and i think i'll list them and ask for anybody who can give some insight to respond. 1. Has there ever been any point in the past where RFD was incapable of providing the service they are there to do? 2. Is this issue more personal, financial, or is the debate necessary for the town future securities? 3. What brought it all on? 4. Is my family in any danger any way by have a volunteer department as oppsed to TFD? Is it the same training, Standards, Philosophies they are ran by? I think i am really needing to know both sides of the story and whats truth vs. rumor. -Mark
January 8, 2008 10:01 AM
Lyle Hardin said...
1)'..was RFD incapable of performing in the past?' The only period during which the RFD was not functional was the time between when ASARCO closed and Ruston contracted with Tacoma. Bob Pudlo would be the authority on this time frame. He was responsible for creating the RFD volunteer department shortly thereafter.
2)'Is this issue more personal, financial,..' For the members of the Fire Committee, of which I was one, the issue was neither personal nor financial, the issue was what was best to protect the community.
3)'What brought it all on' That question should be directed in a public forum to Council Member Stebner, who made the motion for himself to negotiate a contract with Tacoma for fire services.
4)'Is your family in any danger ... by having a volunteer department?' The Fire Committee concluded that the RFD has been providing the services that a fire department is expected to deliver and doing it in an extremely professional and proficient manner. I refer you to the Fire Committee reports, which you may obtain from Town Hall, for a delineation of the training, background and experience of our volunteer members.
January 8, 2008 10:42 AM
Mark said...
I apprectiate the response lyle. I dont think i asked the right question on #1 I guess what i was wondering is as RFD gets sent out on calls has there ever been a time where they say forgot to put gas in the fire truck? I just made this up and it isnt a rumor thats floating around yet but there are many rumors like is circulating and i was more wondering if these rumors are part of a smear campaign against RFD or has there been some issues that might question the safety of citizens?
January 8, 2008 10:56 AM
Lyle said...
Mark, during our analysis, the Fire Committee did not find an single instance of the RFD not responding appropriately and Expediently.
January 8, 2008 12:15 PM
Chief Don Torbet said...
I have not posted on this forum as most of what I say seems to be misused and changed by those seeking to discredit the Ruston Fire Department. I have answered all questions posed, honestly and to the the best of my knowledge and ability. I will do my best to address your questions.
1. Has there ever any point in the past where RFD was incapable of providing the service they are there to do?
Answer: Not to the best of my knowledge. As I recall, we have used our Mutual Aid Agreement with the City of Tacoma a few times for larger indedents; maybe 4 times in my 24 years. Most recently was the Cole Tavern fire 3 or 4 years ago. Due to the possible complexity of the scene, our Asst. Fire Chief requested a full commericial response. I concur with his decision.
2. Is this issue more personal, or is the debate necessary for the town future securities?
Answer: To be honest, it appears to be personal. I like to give people reasonable doubt but after the published Ruston Fire Committee Report, it seems no amount of reason will be considered by a few. I have always welcomed examination of the Ruston Fire Department. I think the Ruston Fire Committee did a thorough and exhaustive job in they're efforts. We must always be willing to look at ways of providing enhanced service.
3.What brought it all on?
Answer: To the best of my recollection, Councilman Stebner felt that we were not responding to calls for service in the Town of Ruston. I gave him information documenting our response to EVERY CALL we were "dispatched" to. I also gave him information as to the reason Tacoma Fire Department had been in the Town of Ruston on calls for service. I personally spent over 40 hours on the phone investigating why Ruston Fire Department was not being dispathed to fire and medical aid calls within the boundaries of Ruston. I finally was able to convince the phone company (Qwest) that Ruston did indeed exist. They're new program installed at LESA was zip code based and had combined Ruston with Tacoma. Mr. Stebner refused to believe my explanation.
5. Is my family in any danger by having a volunteer department as opposed to TFD? Is it the same training, Standards, Philosophies they are ran by?
Answer: Medical training is set up, conducted, tested and monitored by the State of Washington and Pierce County Emergency Management. All EMT's in Pierce County are required to pass the same tests and meet the same ongoing training requirements. Our ongoing medical trainer is Lori Bisbing. She is a respected member of the emergency medical community. She is married to a Tacoma Fire Paramedic and has trained many of the counties EMT's. I will use one of her quotes, "I would hold Ruston Fire Department emergency medical skills up against any department in Pierce County, paid or unpaid."
Ruston Fire is also very fortunate to have in their ranks as a fire fighter, Pat Piper. He is the Training Chief at Bates College Fire Training Program. To complment that training, Ruston Fire was awarded a grant and has purchased over $10,000 in fire training materials. Standards are also mandated by the State of Washington. I have not read or studied Tacoma Fire's Philosophy. I would be very surprised to find it lacking in any way. I believe Ruston Fire has an equal committment to excellence. I would just like to remind people that our volunteers are required to be professionl even though they perform their tasks at a reduced monitary rate. I will accept nothing less.
If you or anyone else have other questions, concerns, or comments, I will do my best to address them. Don Torbet, Ruston Fire Chief 253-381-1887 cell number
January 8, 2008 12:40 PM
Chief Don Torbet said...
Mark, I can think of only one incident that has been used in a the present "campaign". The night of the big wind storm over a year ago, the "first out" fire engine failed to start. I used the medical aid van instead to answer a call for a tree down against a house. It was a toss up as to which piece of equipment might be needed. We do have a reserve fire engine should one have been needed. As soon as we handled the call we returned to the station and were able to get the "first out" engine back in service. In the next day or two it was found that the Town of Ruston heating system had failed.
A little history here. When the Town purchased their first deisel powered fire engine, the Town had heat installed in the engine bay. Please remember this is a 1964 Mack Fire Engine. They were designed to be kept in a warm fire bay. They were not equipped with provisions for "cold start" as they are now. After finding this, I installed a engine block heater. This will allow for cold starts, should the Town's heating system fail in the future.
Two things are important here: First: There was no way the Ruston Fire Department could have known or anticipated the failure of the Town's heating system. Second: There is a back up plan in place (the reserve engine) should it be required.
I want to truely thank you for your questions. I seldom hear the rumors and can't address them until someone tells me what they are. Again, if you or others have question and concerns, please ask.Don Torbet, Ruston Fire Chief 253-381-1887
January 8, 2008 1:14 PM
Mark said...
Chief Don-I actually never heard anything about the engine not starting that night of the windstorms and i thank you for being open and honest about it especially in fragile times like this where as you said anything you say will be turned against you and the department. I was very impressed at the fact that you guys were out taking care of our town as fast as you did at such late hours. I saw the medical aid van and didnt think much as to why. I have heard rumors not connected with that night and i think some of these rumors that lyle hardin already cleared up on this blog are definately a big part of the push for TFD over RFD it almost reminds me of when Powell went to the UN pretending we had evidence of WMD's, used alot of words and made some noise and everyone went along with it. After paying quite a bit of attention to this recently i would challenge anyone to put any evidence about why RFD isnt adequate(Rumors not counting as evidence). I would love to set up a public debate with anyone who would like to challenge me on this. Of course this would never happen because i know that it would be the last thing anyone would want as no evidence can be produced. As far as I have seen or heard. Im still trying keeping an open mind about this so hopefully someone will respond from the other side.
January 8, 2008 1:48 PM
Karen said...
It is so refreshing to hear a new voice asking very pertinent questions. I have forwarded your questions to all the elected officials in the town. Hopefully Council members Stebner, Albertson, Everding or Huson will respond with reasons why they do not support our current fire department. Council member Hedrick is on record with his support of the fire committee recommendations.
Thanks for your comments, Mark. Please stay involved!
January 8, 2008 11:05 PM
Thomas J Ferrer MD said...
Much of the information requested could be gleaned from the Ruston Fire Committee Report. It is best viewed in full color on the Big Screen or computer.
I worked on this report for one year with the same questions in my mind (almost exactly worded the way these questions are). I put my name on that report. This is not to be taken lightly. Honesty is the only way someone in my position remains in a position of Trust. My job and responsibility is too important to put at risk for a local issue such as this. People should realize that I work up to 100 hours a week. My job doesn't change if Ruston loses its fire department. I provide trauma care for Pierce County and accept Trauma referrals from the Western Region at times (here to the Pacific Coast). I present and teach regionally. (I have published nationally).
Working on the committee giving up sleep and weekends at times made me question my sanity. The reason that I did it is that Mayor Transue asked me (by way of referral, we did not know each other except as acquaintances). I realize that while I could easily have said that I was too busy (I am), but then I would be shirking a responsibility to a Town in which I live. I could analyze this overall situation (with actual medical expertise as well as emergency and trauma medical expertise) and could ask and seek answers to the questions that you just asked. No one in Town can match my medical credentials. There are only three other civilian surgeons in the Tacoma area with my qualifications. The answers are in the report in a blunt, clear but tactful way.
I will answer your questions again, but I do not want to fall into a "gotcha situation." I have a point of view so my answers will reflect that. I could easily give you answers that would reflect a different point of view. Tacoma Fire Department is an excellent department and provides Fire and emergency medical services to nearly 200,000 Tacomans, surely they can add our 786 residents to their responsibility. It's that simple. However, that's both the easy answer and the problem.
I quickly realized that the real question is that: Can Tacoma FD take care of Ruston's one square mile better than Ruston FD? Tacoma FD has to cover over 50 square miles. Some people will be closer to the Fire station position, while others will be farther away. Some parts of Tacoma are denser so the Fire stations are closer together or have more equipment and personnel. Some parts of Tacoma are more spread out and Fire stations have larger geographical areas to cover.
Look at a map. Ruston is located in one of the "corners" of Tacoma (roughly speaking of course). It is one the edge of the coverage area of the closest fire station. If another fire station has to respond their location is even farther away. This bothered me, logically this means that responders are now farther away. Response time will be longer. If Ruston were actually Tacoma, that would just be our tough luck.
However, there was always another option available, a local fire department that has protected Ruston for 50 years. It has a track record. If an example of an under-performance or incapability had existed, it would have been easy for those wanting to replace the RFD to exploit such a real example.
There have been times that Mutual Aid from Tacoma has been requested and rendered (about less than once every other year). This is part of our System. All Fire Departments have mutual aid agreements. Historically, RFD has provided coverage to TFD (not recently, but when it was needed, RFD played their role). RFD has had a Mutual Aid agreement with TFD for over 25 years. When TFD had about 40% of their Engines fighting the "Atlas Fire" last October, mutual aid agreements that day helped the TFD immensely.
So I looked for, asked these questions (question one in your list), listened out for criticisms relating to a specific example, and evaluated key events and cases (that occured while the Fire Committe was meeting) that reflected the performance of the RFD. Remember, I can break down most cases because of my background. I also had outside sources at my disposal to help me evaluate fire fighting procedures. (I won't claim any expert status, but I can understand. I also have treated fire victims (as a Burn Surgeon) so I know the patient situations and medical problems of Fire.)
Criticisms that came out of political parties (celebrations) associated with Council Members Albertson and Huson focused on lies designed to sow doubt about the capabilitiesof the RFD. They were addressed in the report, but if you heard from a friend that Ruston EMTs can't perform CPR, or have different licenses than Tacoma EMTs, it may not matter what I say. This is why there is no debate planned on the Fire Committee Report. It's hard to spread rumors if you are going to go up against someone of my knowledge and qualifications.
However, when you talk to Residents who have been helped, or saved by RFD, they sing nothing but praises. Many times they are not participating in Government and are not aware of what's going on until they are told, then they come out and tell their personal stories. People usually don't want to talk about their problems. It's the people that potentially need medical care ASAP and cant wait the extra minutes for Tacoma that I am fighting for.
Regarding question 2: I was asked to be involved after the much of this issue started and also asked myself why am I having to put forth such an effort. Was it to recognize that when Ruston had no income, the RFD was asked to deliver care on a shoestring budget? They did so with an excellent performance record. If it was to prepare for growth and thus upgrade RFD capabilities and budgets, thus protect the people, then the time is worth it. If it was to watch Council Members that are unqualified and uneducated in this field choose an alternative that can potentially harm Ruston residents then the best I can do is point out their folly and shortsightedness to not consider all possible consequences. Remember, I do Trauma. People think they are invincible. They don't really think about their FD until they need them.
Is it personal?: yes. What is motivating Council Member Stebner? When the Fire Committee first started meeting and Stebner was participating a Resident member who had no medical background he was asked why. His response was (this is just hearsay so take it with a grain of salt): Once upon a time when he was in the Air Force, he had a bad feeling about somebody, so he got rid of him and felt he made the right decision. Well, he stated something to the effect that he had a bad feeling about Don (Chief Torbet) and wanted to do away with him. Now I didn't put much stock into that answer, but he could never elucidate in a logical way any of his arguments or counterpoints. From my perspective, his thought processes are simple and goal oriented.
He is in the process in accomplishing his goal so if he is successful what does it matter what the motivation was. Once our FD is gone, we will have to live with the consequences. Ruston loses control and oversight of its Fire and Emergency Services. These are ceded to Tacoma.
Is it Financial? I have touched on this in detail in the reports and above. If you look around the world, any town or city needs to spend a certain amount per person to provide a certain level of service. RFD has been doing it well for a much lower cost. Tacoma may give us a good deal because I trashed their last proposal, but if they do it will be for a lot less than they charge their own residents. That will be politics, Ruston will like it, but the average Tacoman might not want to be subsidizing a town who already has a capable FD. I suspect, Ruston will pay one way or another, or we will continue to become Tacoma and it won't matter. Costs will go up eventually. Remember though if TFD has financial problems, Ruston will have no way to shield itself.
Question 3: What brought it on? I used to think that was important. Then I think I heard the answers and could only shake my head. Immature people are playing around with peoples lives under the guise of trying to provide you "safety" by the best available Fire Department (even if they are farther away).
If we were really trying to leverage what's best for Ruston, we would take a long-term view. Build up and control a valuable asset such as our Fire Department, increase its capabilities. When development matures, then an agreement with Tacoma to help them provide care in this part of of North Tacoma/Ruston without losing control would make sense. The other side threw up examples of the mergers of other small towns and their fire departments. They don't even have good insight regarding their own examples of why Ruston should give up its fire department. Their example actually referred to the following situation which they did not know the details.
One small town without a fire station (Algona) merged with a larger city (Auburn) with a much larger fire department as well as another small town Pacific and it's smaller fire department. All the residents voted on this proposal. All three cities then shared a one third representation on the nine person Board of Governors which governed the Valley Regional Fire Authority. The people in Algona that started with no fire department went up to having oversight and a one third say on how Services would be delivered. Ruston gets no fire station and no representation regarding our Fire and Emergency Services. We give away money and have no say. Anybody can do that.
Question 4: Is your family in danger? Is the RFD the same as TFD with regards to training and standards. Are the philosophies the same? This question could also have a long answer as you can tell from above. Based on the long track record of the RFD, the short answer is no (to danger). While I don't have a family, there are several families in Ruston that I have a personal attachment to and also its ingrained in my training to consider this question in any thing that I do. Am I giving the care that I want my family to have?
Your question is really about training and standards. There are many rumors, accusations, statements denigrating the "Training of Ruston EMTs" I covered this in detail in the Fire Committee Report, but as I stated before, it is difficult to fight innuendo. What I did do was evaluate RFD training as best I could do. I had access to them. So did everyone in town if they wanted to do what I did. RFD EMTs earn their license just like everyone else in the State of Washington. They keep their license by participating and keeping up with "continuing education" which is standardized and the term is OTEP (ongoing training and evaluation process)
When I did the report, our EMTs were one hundred percent compliant. I attended some of their classes, I lectured to them about trauma care, I evaluated their base of knowledge, (the emergency medicine side which are 80% of their calls). I did the above part a year before I was asked to serve on the Fire Committee.
This was just me learning on my own about the RFD (and I was invited to teach them). I studied some of their cases and their performance. I got to know them. The senior EMTs that lead our FD are impressive in their resumes and qualifications in emergency medicine and firefighting. They can save my life anytime, they can work on any of my family members. I could never make the statement that Ruston EMTs can't do their job because I would by LYING.
However, almost everyone else can make that statement and not worry about whether its the truth or not. They don't have my abilities, education or training to evaluate EMTs so they can say whatever they want to sow doubt. Ask someone who was a patient of theirs, then make up your own mind.
The firefighting questions can only be answered credibly by the Firefighters that are available to you to be asked. I asked firefighting questions to all those that presented to our committee, to Chief Torbet, to Pat Piper (Ruston Firefighter and EMT) who trains firefighters at BATES Technical College. Check his qualifications. My observation is that they train hard, can fight fire and save lives. Ruston Firefighters train for the situations that they will encounter in Ruston. Tacoma firefighters train for the situations that occur in Tacoma and have specialized units as do other large Fire Departments. If a hazardous waste train exploded in Ruston, we would need help.
What's rumor and what's truth?Its easy to spread rumor, you often don't have to attach you name or credibility to rumor. Truth can be easy too. Just don't confuse "beliefs" with truth even though they may be one and the same.
When you look at my slides from the first presentation and most of the second presentation, the "facts" on my slides are backed by references. When you publish something in an official manner and you put you name on it, it better be the truth. My answers today include my personal reflections that are additive to what is part of the Ruston Fire Committee reports. You can tell my opinion and point of view is part of my answers. You can tell when I am passing along hearsay. That's why they were not published in an official manner.
Thomas J Ferrer MD
January 9, 2008 8:06 AM
Tuesday, January 8, 2008
Just Plain Wrong
Ruston's Fire Chief had to file a Freedom of Information request today in an attempt to get details from Council members Stebner and Albertson about the contract they have negotiated with Tacoma Fire for services. It is tragic that he has to go to such lengths to get this vital information, much less that he, along with the mayor and the fire committee, have been shut out of such important deliberations. Karen
Why the Secrecy?
Ruston council members Wayne Stebner and Dan Albertson admitted under pressure at last night’s council meeting that they have met with Tacoma Fire Chief Stephens. But they refused to give any details of what arrangements they are making with Tacoma Fire to take over Ruston’s emergency services, despite requests from the mayor, Ruston fire chief and several members of the public. These requests came shortly after Albertson had complained that the mayor was not providing information to the council in advance so they would have time to study and research the issues.
The public deserves the same consideration.
Given the gravity of this decision, such secrecy does not serve the citizens of Ruston. At the very least Ruston’s mayor, fire chief and fire committee should be involved in any discussion with Tacoma Fire Department. Karen
The public deserves the same consideration.
Given the gravity of this decision, such secrecy does not serve the citizens of Ruston. At the very least Ruston’s mayor, fire chief and fire committee should be involved in any discussion with Tacoma Fire Department. Karen
New Voice
This conversation has been taking place on our sister blog Ruston Truth. The dialogue began a few days ago, and I think it warrants consideration here on our main page. The author asks for input on his ideas. New voices are vital and I encourage folks to respond. Comments are no longer previewed, but will removed if they do not meet our criteria (to be accurate and civil). Karen
I have to say I rather enjoyed the last comment and i thank the author for responding to my comment. I want to state for the record that even though i lived in Tacoma for 22 years, I really enjoy living in Ruston and I hope that having our town ours is something we continue to have as the years go on. I was somewhat concerned that even though i respect Wayne and I always like hearing his ideas and opinions that i came across as someone from his camp. I don't always share the same feelings about things. I like the idea that our fire department is a block away from my house as opposed to a mile or so. We have many problems in this town and for as many problems we have there are many things we can be grateful for. If you care enough to read on I would like to share my ideas on that. I stated before I lived in Tacoma for 22 years before I moved here, and one thing i really liked about Tacoma was the garbage service, now by saying this one thing i want to make sure i clear up ahead of time is that my issue isn't with the men who pick it up, it is with quantity. i enjoyed having three big containers (trash, recycling, yard waste) to throw my trash away in. On the other hand I cant morally justify eliminating jobs of people who have faithfully served the community that I have lived in for only a few years and they have served far beyond that. Touching on a far more sensitive subject. The Fire Department. I have tried to stay out of all our small town politics to the best of my abilities. My only true experience with RFD is when we had our windstorms last year and some power, telephone and cables line were knocked down. I went outside because i rather enjoy rough weather, and who did i see in the alley way? None other than Don Torbet clearing lines and taking care of other issues. This is small but very significant in the fact that I will bet everything that i have worked for my entire life that if we disbanded our fire department two year ago, when we woke up in the morning we would have been driving over fallen power lines (yes i know driving over a power line wont kill you because a car on rubber tires isn't grounded). I have to agree that everyone needs somewhere to vent and as Americans we all have the right to do so, but there are far more effective means of inspiring a movement than name calling and rumor spreading (for clues read Machiavelli "The Prince". No serious it will clue you into what happens when invaders such as the "cabal" come in and try to change a civilization. If you want to borrow my copy just let me know) We have much to gain here from not merging with Tacoma and many of us already know that. This is a very emotionally based issue. But what i want to try for a second is to try to take the emotion away and talk using rationing and reasoning. I see the differences as being. 1. In Tacoma with several hundred thousand constituents does your voice from a small corner of the city really matter? 2. If we were in Tacoma would you have your council members Home Phone and personal email addresses? 3. If an appointed city official such as chief of fire or police did something questionable what sort of bureaucracy would u have to go through as opposed to showing up at a council meeting and sharing the issues at hand. I firmly believe that I am the only person in this town that is not on one side or the other and I am very curious to hear from you all thank you. Oh by the way my name is Mark.P.S. I only responded to Hose drills because it was the last blog not necessarily because it was the correct blog
I have to say I rather enjoyed the last comment and i thank the author for responding to my comment. I want to state for the record that even though i lived in Tacoma for 22 years, I really enjoy living in Ruston and I hope that having our town ours is something we continue to have as the years go on. I was somewhat concerned that even though i respect Wayne and I always like hearing his ideas and opinions that i came across as someone from his camp. I don't always share the same feelings about things. I like the idea that our fire department is a block away from my house as opposed to a mile or so. We have many problems in this town and for as many problems we have there are many things we can be grateful for. If you care enough to read on I would like to share my ideas on that. I stated before I lived in Tacoma for 22 years before I moved here, and one thing i really liked about Tacoma was the garbage service, now by saying this one thing i want to make sure i clear up ahead of time is that my issue isn't with the men who pick it up, it is with quantity. i enjoyed having three big containers (trash, recycling, yard waste) to throw my trash away in. On the other hand I cant morally justify eliminating jobs of people who have faithfully served the community that I have lived in for only a few years and they have served far beyond that. Touching on a far more sensitive subject. The Fire Department. I have tried to stay out of all our small town politics to the best of my abilities. My only true experience with RFD is when we had our windstorms last year and some power, telephone and cables line were knocked down. I went outside because i rather enjoy rough weather, and who did i see in the alley way? None other than Don Torbet clearing lines and taking care of other issues. This is small but very significant in the fact that I will bet everything that i have worked for my entire life that if we disbanded our fire department two year ago, when we woke up in the morning we would have been driving over fallen power lines (yes i know driving over a power line wont kill you because a car on rubber tires isn't grounded). I have to agree that everyone needs somewhere to vent and as Americans we all have the right to do so, but there are far more effective means of inspiring a movement than name calling and rumor spreading (for clues read Machiavelli "The Prince". No serious it will clue you into what happens when invaders such as the "cabal" come in and try to change a civilization. If you want to borrow my copy just let me know) We have much to gain here from not merging with Tacoma and many of us already know that. This is a very emotionally based issue. But what i want to try for a second is to try to take the emotion away and talk using rationing and reasoning. I see the differences as being. 1. In Tacoma with several hundred thousand constituents does your voice from a small corner of the city really matter? 2. If we were in Tacoma would you have your council members Home Phone and personal email addresses? 3. If an appointed city official such as chief of fire or police did something questionable what sort of bureaucracy would u have to go through as opposed to showing up at a council meeting and sharing the issues at hand. I firmly believe that I am the only person in this town that is not on one side or the other and I am very curious to hear from you all thank you. Oh by the way my name is Mark.P.S. I only responded to Hose drills because it was the last blog not necessarily because it was the correct blog
Sunday, January 6, 2008
The Conversation Continues
The hope with this new method of dialogue is that many voices will contribute their thoughts. This comment was left recently on our sister blog Ruston Truth. It merits consideration:
This last election has once again (save for Jim Hedrick's election) taken a huge step backwards in terms of openness and integrity. Here we are, faced with a substantial amount of objective information supporting our highly competent and capable fire department/EMS team, and a council bent on replacing it. What can possibly be the rationale for this, when one of our areas most competent Trauma Surgeons and Ruston resident, Dr. Tom Ferrer (and member of the fire department review committee) advises against exactly this strategy?
What we have is a small "cabal" with a hidden agenda trying to shape the town, not in the interests of the residents' best interests, but rather in their own vision (whatever that is).
Installing Dan Albertson instead of Lyle Hardin in the vacated seat was another mistake. Lyle is a moderate, reasoned voice which we desperately need. Dan Albertson will be in open warfare with Transue for the next two years which will further paralyze this town.
And this tragic situation in a town with so much promise...
Builderman55
This last election has once again (save for Jim Hedrick's election) taken a huge step backwards in terms of openness and integrity. Here we are, faced with a substantial amount of objective information supporting our highly competent and capable fire department/EMS team, and a council bent on replacing it. What can possibly be the rationale for this, when one of our areas most competent Trauma Surgeons and Ruston resident, Dr. Tom Ferrer (and member of the fire department review committee) advises against exactly this strategy?
What we have is a small "cabal" with a hidden agenda trying to shape the town, not in the interests of the residents' best interests, but rather in their own vision (whatever that is).
Installing Dan Albertson instead of Lyle Hardin in the vacated seat was another mistake. Lyle is a moderate, reasoned voice which we desperately need. Dan Albertson will be in open warfare with Transue for the next two years which will further paralyze this town.
And this tragic situation in a town with so much promise...
Builderman55
Thursday, January 3, 2008
Fire Committee Report
The fire committee report is a vital part of any decision making process for this community. We should heed what the committee recommends, both because of the depth of their study and the expertise of those on the committee. Following is a summary of this important information that will be delivered to town residents:
Losing our fire department will cost Ruston lives.
The Ruston council is making a life and death decision on your behalf. They are ignoring the fire committee findings and repeated public opposition by pursing a contract with Tacoma for emergency services.
Ruston Fire is fast and well-trained.
· 2:30 minutes 2007 Ruston Response Time
· 5.47 minutes 2006 Tacoma Response Time
Council Study Session January 14th, 7 pm 5219 N. Shirley Street
"I am concerned about the lack of expertise and qualifications in the field of emergency medical service of Ruston council members. I feel they lack the insight to make these life and death decisions."
Dr. Ferrer, Tacoma Trauma Surgeon and Fire Committee Member
“I would hold Ruston Fire Department emergency medical skills up against any department in Pierce County, paid or unpaid."
Lori Bisping, NREMT-P, SEI, Pierce County EMS Trainer
“Ruston Fire Department has the skill and capability to handle any fire, and one of the fastest response times in the state. Town residents are well protected.”
Pat Piper, Bates Fire Training Chief and member of Ruston Fire Department and Fire Committee
Full Report Available at
RustonReports.blogspot.com
Or call (253) 228-8529 to have a copy delivered to your door
Committee Members:
The committee brought many years of expertise to the table:
Dr. Tom Ferrer: 3 year resident, Tacoma trauma surgeon, member Pierce County Emergency Medical Service Council
Bob Pudlo: 40 year resident, former mayor and council member, helped re-form Ruston Fire Department (RFD) after failed contract with Tacoma Fire
Bruce Allen: Firefighter and EMT over 12 years, assistant RFD chief
Pat Piper: 27 year EMT, firefighter, training chief for Bates Fire Program (Outstanding Educator of the Year, 2007), RFD member
Lyle Hardin: 18 year resident, small business owner, business district officer
Edith Tallman: resident since 1960’s, active in town issues
Wayne Steber: 4 year resident, current council member, consultant (did not concur with committee findings)
Findings:
The committee spent over a year examining the current department and Ruston’s future growth. They compared 4 local departments: Ruston, University Place, Tacoma and Browns Point. All evolved from volunteer departments, 2 still use them. They found:
· Quick response time means saved lives and property. Ruston has the fastest response time.
· Ruston has well-trained volunteers with many expert members, including a paramedic and firefighting instructor.
· All members are Emergency Medical Technicians (or in process).
· RFD has leveraged the limited resources allotted to them ($38 per resident in 2006).
· The department has performed well and is adequate for current needs over the next 2 years.
· Recent problems with Tacoma responding to Ruston calls are system errors that have been corrected.
Recommendations:
Tacoma Fire gave a proposal for services that was considered. The committee felt Ruston is best served by enhancing our current department to meet future demands. They recommend:
· Increase department members to 20 (completed in 2007)
· Appoint a member as a public relations spokesperson to address on-going rumors and keep residents informed.
· Supplement volunteers with a residency program as Ruston grows, using the home next to town hall.
· Fund future needs with a levy as most local communities have done.
· Require sprinklers on new construction.
Losing our fire department will cost Ruston lives.
The Ruston council is making a life and death decision on your behalf. They are ignoring the fire committee findings and repeated public opposition by pursing a contract with Tacoma for emergency services.
Ruston Fire is fast and well-trained.
· 2:30 minutes 2007 Ruston Response Time
· 5.47 minutes 2006 Tacoma Response Time
Council Study Session January 14th, 7 pm 5219 N. Shirley Street
"I am concerned about the lack of expertise and qualifications in the field of emergency medical service of Ruston council members. I feel they lack the insight to make these life and death decisions."
Dr. Ferrer, Tacoma Trauma Surgeon and Fire Committee Member
“I would hold Ruston Fire Department emergency medical skills up against any department in Pierce County, paid or unpaid."
Lori Bisping, NREMT-P, SEI, Pierce County EMS Trainer
“Ruston Fire Department has the skill and capability to handle any fire, and one of the fastest response times in the state. Town residents are well protected.”
Pat Piper, Bates Fire Training Chief and member of Ruston Fire Department and Fire Committee
Full Report Available at
RustonReports.blogspot.com
Or call (253) 228-8529 to have a copy delivered to your door
Committee Members:
The committee brought many years of expertise to the table:
Dr. Tom Ferrer: 3 year resident, Tacoma trauma surgeon, member Pierce County Emergency Medical Service Council
Bob Pudlo: 40 year resident, former mayor and council member, helped re-form Ruston Fire Department (RFD) after failed contract with Tacoma Fire
Bruce Allen: Firefighter and EMT over 12 years, assistant RFD chief
Pat Piper: 27 year EMT, firefighter, training chief for Bates Fire Program (Outstanding Educator of the Year, 2007), RFD member
Lyle Hardin: 18 year resident, small business owner, business district officer
Edith Tallman: resident since 1960’s, active in town issues
Wayne Steber: 4 year resident, current council member, consultant (did not concur with committee findings)
Findings:
The committee spent over a year examining the current department and Ruston’s future growth. They compared 4 local departments: Ruston, University Place, Tacoma and Browns Point. All evolved from volunteer departments, 2 still use them. They found:
· Quick response time means saved lives and property. Ruston has the fastest response time.
· Ruston has well-trained volunteers with many expert members, including a paramedic and firefighting instructor.
· All members are Emergency Medical Technicians (or in process).
· RFD has leveraged the limited resources allotted to them ($38 per resident in 2006).
· The department has performed well and is adequate for current needs over the next 2 years.
· Recent problems with Tacoma responding to Ruston calls are system errors that have been corrected.
Recommendations:
Tacoma Fire gave a proposal for services that was considered. The committee felt Ruston is best served by enhancing our current department to meet future demands. They recommend:
· Increase department members to 20 (completed in 2007)
· Appoint a member as a public relations spokesperson to address on-going rumors and keep residents informed.
· Supplement volunteers with a residency program as Ruston grows, using the home next to town hall.
· Fund future needs with a levy as most local communities have done.
· Require sprinklers on new construction.
Wednesday, January 2, 2008
Trauma Care Expertise in Ruston
The News Tribune yesterday described how Tacoma's new trauma care system is saving lives in the South Sound. Ruston is blessed to have one of these trauma surgeons living in town.
Dr. Ferrer has graciously served on Ruston's fire committee, sharing his many years of emergency medical experience to the benefit our community. He supports the fire committee's recommendations to keep and build our own local fire department. It should be noted that his opinion is his own and does not in any way reflect the views of the Tacoma Trauma Center.
Dr. Ferrer commented on the Ruston Council's decision to pursue a contract with Tacoma Fire for emergency services, "I am concerned about the lack of expertise and qualifications in the field of emergency medical services of the Ruston council members. I feel they lack the insight to make these life and death decisions."
Dr. Ferrer has graciously served on Ruston's fire committee, sharing his many years of emergency medical experience to the benefit our community. He supports the fire committee's recommendations to keep and build our own local fire department. It should be noted that his opinion is his own and does not in any way reflect the views of the Tacoma Trauma Center.
Dr. Ferrer commented on the Ruston Council's decision to pursue a contract with Tacoma Fire for emergency services, "I am concerned about the lack of expertise and qualifications in the field of emergency medical services of the Ruston council members. I feel they lack the insight to make these life and death decisions."
Appeal to Tacoma
Sent to Tacoma City Council and Fire Department and Mayor of Tacoma:
RETAIN RUSTON FIRE DEPARTMENT
1-2-08
Dear Sir,
As a Town of Ruston property owner I wish to retain the Ruston Volunteer Fire Department. A small group of Tacoma wannabes, trouble makers running the Town is trying to force this on us. My lawyer at my direction will be filing a "PETITION FOR REFERENDUM" if they continue with this. Tacoma will be a defendant.
/s/James L Wingard
RETAIN RUSTON FIRE DEPARTMENT
1-2-08
Dear Sir,
As a Town of Ruston property owner I wish to retain the Ruston Volunteer Fire Department. A small group of Tacoma wannabes, trouble makers running the Town is trying to force this on us. My lawyer at my direction will be filing a "PETITION FOR REFERENDUM" if they continue with this. Tacoma will be a defendant.
/s/James L Wingard
Plans for Point Defiance Park
A nice article in Monday's Tribune about plans for the park to the north that we all enjoy.
Appeal to Tacoma Fire Chief
Chief Ronald W. Stephens:
I am asking your forbearance regarding a contract to provide fire and emergency medical services to the Town of Ruston . Commensurate with a recent abrupt change in the makeup of the town council, an ordinance was passed by the Ruston Council which authorized Council Member Stebner and one other council member to negotiate a contract with the City of Tacoma to provide fire and emergency medical services to the town of Ruston . I am suggesting that you delay negotiating such a contract until you have met with Ruston Mayor Michael Transue and Ruston Fire Chief Don Torbet to get a better understanding of the current capabilities of the Ruston Fire Department and better gauge the support in the Ruston community for the Ruston Fire Department.
The Ruston Fire Committee just completed an analysis of the fire and emergency medical service needs for the Town of Ruston as the town prepares for the upcoming development growth. In performing its analysis, the Ruston Fire Committee interviewed the following local fire departments: 1) Browns Point / Dash Point 2) Lacey, 3) University Place and 4) Tacoma . All departments were exceedingly cooperative and helpful to the Ruston Fire Committee. Chief Stephens, your department in the persons of Michael Fitzgerald, Assistant to the Chief, and Jolene Davis, Deputy Chief Support Services, provided the committee with an excellent presentation of the capabilities, statistics and budget for the Tacoma Fire Department. Additionally, you provided the committee with a proposal for your Tacoma Fire Department to provide fire and emergency medical services to the Town of Ruston . After a meeting this summer with Ruston Mayor Transue and Fire Chief Torbet, you reaffirmed your department’s commitment to continue with the long standing Mutual Aid Agreement between Tacoma and Ruston.
As noted in my introductory paragraph, I am requesting your forbearance in negotiating a contract with Ruston for the following practical and political reasons.
Ø The Ruston Fire Committee recommended that Ruston retain and expand its Fire Department to a paid/volunteer department over the upcoming growth years.
Ø The Ruston Fire Committee considered your proposal for fire and emergency medical services to Ruston to be a fair and accurate one based primarily on a model of cost per incident.
Ø Increasing the Ruston Fire Department capacity will benefit the area wide fire and emergency medical services network by having an additional department to help share the increased services demand while helping defray some of the costs to other fire departments in the area.
Ø The Ruston Fire Committee concluded that the extremely rapid EMS and Fire response of the Ruston Fire Department, due to the very compact geography of the town, is a major benefit to the current citizens and will be a benefit to residents in the new developments occurring in Ruston and the adjoining area of Tacoma .
Ø After a number of difficult financial years for Ruston due to the closure of ASARCO and the EPA mandated site cleanup, Ruston is now entering into a period where it will be able to provide increased financial support for the area’s service demands.
Ø The Ruston community requires more time to have forums to discuss the Ruston Fire Committee recommendations. A paucity of such discussion was reflected in the denial of community input at the Ruston Council meeting that passed the ordinance authorizing Council Member Stebner to negotiate a contract with Tacoma .
Ø During the past year, Council Member Stebner, while serving on the Ruston Fire Committee during its assessment period, without conferring with the committee, proposed an ordinance to contract with Tacoma for fire and emergency medical services. The community support for the Ruston Fire Department and the Ruston Fire Committee was so overwhelmingly strong that Council Member Stebner withdrew his proposed ordinance.
Ø A contract from Tacoma at this time might prove to be awkward if it is different from the proposal given to the Ruston Fire Committee just a few months ago.
Ø The Ruston ordinance authorizing members of the Ruston Council to negotiate a contract with Tacoma may have over stepped the authority of the council to enter into an activity which is normally within the purview of the Ruston Mayor. Additionally there appeared to be procedural flaws that might bear upon the authority to proceed with negotiating the contract.
Chief Stephens thank you very much for your time to consider this issue, may I ask that you proceed with as much speed as possible in granting my request, the timeline proposed by the Ruston Council is extremely aggressive and will not provide for the considered community involvement that this subject requires.
Due to the wide ranging impact of this proposed contract between Tacoma and Ruston for fire and emergency medical services, you can see by the inclusive list of people on this email, I am intent on reaching as many principals as possible.
Thank you,
Lyle Hardin - Phone 253 752 8815
Ruston Resident
Ruston Fire Committee Member
Tuesday, January 1, 2008
Appeal to Tacoma Leaders
This email was sent to Tacoma's elected officials tonight. I encourage everyone to express their views. Email addresses for both Tacoma and Ruston officials are listed below.
Dear Tacoma Council Member,
I am one of your neighbors in the Town of Ruston. As you are probably aware, we are experiencing some controversy about our fire department. There are some who are pushing to disband our department and contract with Tacoma Fire for emergency services. This is a small but powerful group who control the majority of our Town Council.
At its December 17th meeting, the council authorized itself to negotiate a contract with Tacoma Fire for services without any public input on its motion. This action is contrary to the recommendation of a citizen committee that was appointed to research and advise on this issue and despite strong community testimony supporting our fire department on numerous occasions. The council has allowed very little public discussion or input on the committee findings, much less on a decision to disband our department.
As part of its review, the citizen committee carefully considered a proposal for services from Tacoma Fire. That proposal offered services for about $80 per Ruston resident, while Tacoma citizens pay about $250 per resident. At the same time, I understand Tacoma is facing shortfalls in public safety funding. Taking on this additional burden, especially when there is community opposition in Ruston and an excellent fire department already in place does not make sense for either municipality.
Keeping Ruston's fire department may actually increase safety for Tacoma residents. Our EMT's are closer, well-skilled and available to help when your personnel are busy. The north-end Tacoma fire engine was not available for 25% of its calls in 2006 (they were already on a call) and other engines had to be sent to help from outside the area.
This is a politically charged issue that deserves time and input - neither of which is being allowed by Ruston's elected officials. So I strongly encourage you to take action that is in Tacoma's best interest and withdraw from any contract negotiations with Ruston for emergency services.
Thank you for your consideration. You may contact me with questions at (253) 228-8529.
Karen Pickett
Tacoma Officials:
Mayor Baarsma bbaarsma@cityoftacoma.org
Deputy Mayor Ladenburg cladenbu@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Anderson Julie.Anderson@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Evans bevans2@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Lonergan mlonerga@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Manthou Spiro.Manthou@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Stenger Thomas.Stenger@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Talbert rtalbert@cityoftacoma.org
Ruston Officials:
Mayor, Michael Transue: cmjtransue@comcast.net
Council Member Jim Hedrick: jim_Hedrick@comcast.net
Council Member Bradley Hudson : bhuson@wamail.net
Council Member Wayne Stebner : waynestebner@comcast.net
Council Member Bob Everding : bob@pygmalion.ws
Council Member Dan Albertson: dmalaw@att.net
Dear Tacoma Council Member,
I am one of your neighbors in the Town of Ruston. As you are probably aware, we are experiencing some controversy about our fire department. There are some who are pushing to disband our department and contract with Tacoma Fire for emergency services. This is a small but powerful group who control the majority of our Town Council.
At its December 17th meeting, the council authorized itself to negotiate a contract with Tacoma Fire for services without any public input on its motion. This action is contrary to the recommendation of a citizen committee that was appointed to research and advise on this issue and despite strong community testimony supporting our fire department on numerous occasions. The council has allowed very little public discussion or input on the committee findings, much less on a decision to disband our department.
As part of its review, the citizen committee carefully considered a proposal for services from Tacoma Fire. That proposal offered services for about $80 per Ruston resident, while Tacoma citizens pay about $250 per resident. At the same time, I understand Tacoma is facing shortfalls in public safety funding. Taking on this additional burden, especially when there is community opposition in Ruston and an excellent fire department already in place does not make sense for either municipality.
Keeping Ruston's fire department may actually increase safety for Tacoma residents. Our EMT's are closer, well-skilled and available to help when your personnel are busy. The north-end Tacoma fire engine was not available for 25% of its calls in 2006 (they were already on a call) and other engines had to be sent to help from outside the area.
This is a politically charged issue that deserves time and input - neither of which is being allowed by Ruston's elected officials. So I strongly encourage you to take action that is in Tacoma's best interest and withdraw from any contract negotiations with Ruston for emergency services.
Thank you for your consideration. You may contact me with questions at (253) 228-8529.
Karen Pickett
Tacoma Officials:
Mayor Baarsma bbaarsma@cityoftacoma.org
Deputy Mayor Ladenburg cladenbu@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Anderson Julie.Anderson@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Evans bevans2@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Lonergan mlonerga@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Manthou Spiro.Manthou@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Stenger Thomas.Stenger@cityoftacoma.org
Council Member Talbert rtalbert@cityoftacoma.org
Ruston Officials:
Mayor, Michael Transue: cmjtransue@comcast.net
Council Member Jim Hedrick: jim_Hedrick@comcast.net
Council Member Bradley Hudson : bhuson@wamail.net
Council Member Wayne Stebner : waynestebner@comcast.net
Council Member Bob Everding : bob@pygmalion.ws
Council Member Dan Albertson: dmalaw@att.net
Thursday, December 27, 2007
Deal for Ruston?
Just want to throw out a teaser to our Tacoma readers. You'll note on page 15 of the fire committee report that Tacoma Fire Department has proposed providing fire and emergency medical services for much less per person than Tacoma residents are paying for the same services ($250 per Tacoma resident, $79.44 per Ruston resident paid to Tacoma for their services). Does that sound equitable to our Tacoma neighbors? More to come...
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